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Women “Occasionally” Teaching Men

Women “Occasionally” Teaching Men

After my post about Nancy Wolgemuth watering down the topic of keepers at home, someone alerted me to the fact that she teaches men. I looked on Nancy’s site and this is what I found:

“At the same time, Nancy does not believe that occasional teaching by women in mixed audiences is inappropriate, as long as two things are clear. First, that it is taking place under the headship of male spiritual authority. (The word translated have authority means ‘to exercise authority on one’s own account; to domineer over—one who acts on his own authority; to have dominion.’) And, second, as long as the woman involved is not put in a position of ongoing responsibility for the spiritual direction of men. (The word translated to teach in 1 Timothy 2:12 is in a tense that indicates ongoing instruction.)”

The problem I have with this statement is that the Bible doesn’t give these two exceptions for women teaching men. This is what God’s Word has to say about it:

Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression” (1 Timothy 2 :11-14). And “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law” (1 Corinthians 14:33, 34). 

I don’t see anywhere that women can teach men IF they are placed under the headship of male authority OR that teaching means ongoing instruction. With the admonition for women to be silent, ask their husbands at home, and women aren’t to teach nor be in authority over men because the man was created first and women are more easily deceived, the Apostle Paul was VERY clear what God’s intentions for women are concerning teaching men. As many of you know, I have even come to be convicted about not teaching women the Word (doctrine) because if one of the stipulations for women not teaching men is that they can be easily deceived, why should we be teaching women solid doctrine and may even be leading women into deception?

God is very clear what He wants women teaching women in Titus 2:4, 5. Yes, there are many other parts of Scripture that relate back to these verses and a woman’s role in the home and church but it doesn’t seem like much of a guessing game to me. Jesus chose twelve male disciples. Men wrote all of the books of the Bible and were the priests. God has chosen men to teach the clear Word of God and so we should point women who want to deeply study the Word to godly male preachers/teachers because there are some great ones out there! (Here is one called Hindrances to Holiness.)

In seeing how Nancy has watered down keepers at home and women teaching men, I want to make sure you know that I still firmly believe she is a sister in Christ. She teaches many great things but you all must be Bereans, even with what I teach, and search the Scripture to see if everything we teach is according to His Word. It is the Bible that is our final authority, not a teacher/preacher.

These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
Acts 17:11

The Jezebels Among Us

The Jezebels Among Us

There are many women preachers/teachers/authors out there these days who have “special revelations” from God. God spoke to them, they claim, as if God’s Word isn’t enough for them. Many women love these women preachers, attend their conferences, and believe these Jezebels must be so godly because they “hear from God” even though most of the women in the audience never do, thus they feel inferior and less godly. These Jezebels falsely believe that the words they heard from God are for others so they preach/teach and even write books about Jesus talking to through them. Beware, women!

Hebrews 1:1, 2 is clear that God in times past spoke through prophets but in these last days, He has spoken through Jesus Christ. “God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds.” Everything we need for life and godliness are in His Word and we are warned at the end of Revelation about anyone adding to or subtracting from His Word (Revelation 22:18, 19).

Revelation 2:20 speaks about this woman Jezebel so I thought I would look up in the commentaries to see what godly men who studied the Word had to say about her. “If the above view be right, the leader of the exorcists is a woman—regarded by her followers as a prophetess, as one with a real message from God; but viewed by the Lord of the churches as a very Jezebel, teaching and seducing the servants of God. For letting her alone, for being timid, paying too much deference to her spiritual pretensions, for failing to see and to show that the so-called ‘deep things’ of these teachers were depths of Satan, the chief minister is rebuked.” (Ellicot’s Commentary)

This description sounds a whole lot like a lot of the women preachers today that we are told to not have anything to do with. God doesn’t want women preaching and teaching the Word of God. He wants men to do this. He gave this ministry to men, not to women. God is clear what He wants women to teach other women; the ways of godly womanhood and these Jezebels never teach about the principles of Titus 2:4, 5 as far as I can see or have heard.

Professing Christians are fawning over every heretic, heresy, heretical book, and blasphemous movie. They will race off to conferences with a speaker lineup that reads like a ‘Who’s Who?’ in false ‘ministers of righteousness.’  The truth floats on by them, but they eagerly reach out, grab, and gush over every falsehood. But they will not rejoice over or promote truth. Further, they refuse to invest any time and energy defending anyone who presents truth when they are under attack.”

Banes’ Notes on the Bible has this to say about Jezebels: “The kind of character, therefore, which would be designated by the term as used here, would be that of a woman who was artful and persuasive in her manner; who was capable of exerting a wide influence over others; who had talents of a high order; who was a thorough advocate of error; who was unscrupulous in the means which she employed for accomplishing her ends; and the tendency of whose influence was to lead the people into the abominable practices of idolatry.”

They act so spiritual. They stand up in front of churches behind pulpits. They are loud and commanding in the way they speak. They make up new words that sound spiritual but are not biblical. They leave their homes, husbands, and children to “minister” to women. You won’t hear them teaching about submitting to and obeying their husbands or being keepers at home. They won’t exhort families and churches to care for widows so they can be home with their children. I doubt they will ever mention that women are to be silent in the churches and if women have questions to ask their husbands at home. Forget about the exhortation that women are not to teach nor be in authority over men. No, these important topics for women will most likely never be heard from these Jezebels and we wonder why the Church is so weak and ineffective today.

Then when older women teach younger women all of these principles of godly womanhood and give Scripture to back up what they teach, they are called names, told how horrible they are, and ridiculed by the many who reject God’s truths. C.H. Fisher wrote: “But they reject God’s messengers. They call them mean-spirited, hateful, ignorant, self-righteous, and even diabolical, for the sole reason that His messengers pierce their fickle and carnal hearts with anointed truth. When they speak harsh rebukes to God’s messengers, they are speaking against Him. Condemning God’s messengers is as condemning the message and the One who sent it. It is as rejecting His righteous authority. There will be judgment for that great sin. The reason is because it not only prevents the individuals who reject it from entering the kingdom of heaven, it deceives and prevents other ones from entering.”

Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1 Corinthians 14:34

Satan Preys on the Vulnerability of Women

Satan Preys on the Vulnerability of Women

A woman wrote me this letter recently and I thought many of you would enjoy reading it. I do love receiving letters from wise women who read my blog because they give a different perspective.

Interesting circumstance yesterday morning in doing some on-line research for my husband, I came across a blog posting on “Why Your Pastor Should Say ‘No More to Beth Moore.” With hundreds of comments listed, I began reading. Whew! Took a while. As I read, I realized anew why God has NOT “ordained” women to teach the scriptures; they are EASILY deceived, persuaded, with the emotions playing a huge part in the processing! The last post, posted just this week, (by a man! ha) pretty much sums up all the previous ones, the major
portion being written by women:

“After reading through a majority of these comments, I am convinced that this sums up the entire state of American Christianity in 2017. I can’t believe how many people want to twist and spin Scripture around to make it say what they want it to say. One person even went as far to say something along the lines of  ‘Don’t allow the Bible to tell you how to reach people!’ which I am not even sure how someone could physically type those words.

I mean I totally understand someone who claims to be an unbeliever having a problem with what the Bible says, but I just can’t wrap my head around someone who claims to be a follower of Christ yet completely ignores what scripture clearly states. I can’t explain how many times I’ve had a discussion with someone and they have replied ‘God would never say that’ when I have directly quoted Scripture to them.

Josh, thank you for this article. I appreciate anyone who firmly stands on the truth of Scripture and wants to honor Him above any man or woman, especially when it comes to calling out a popular false teacher. May God bless you and continue to give you strength as you further His kingdom through this ministry.”

After reading that article/comments, I sat back, tried to get my mind back in focus, and thought, “Oh, I haven’t yet read Lori’s blog for today.” So imagine my utmost surprise when I read the title “Why Don’t Women’s Bible Studies Teach Submission.” And then I checked out Timothy Hammon’s article. I believe the Lord allowed the timing of my reading to, once again, show that HIS word is true….always. We just need to obey. Nothing MORE, nothing LESS! It’s really pretty simple (but very difficult to put in practice?). I guess that’s why, as human beings/sinners, we think there is always something “more” we should be “doing.” In the end, we really don’t believe God, or His word, is sufficient/enough.

My husband and I were discussing this “women’s” issue once again. Interesting, isn’t it, that Satan went first to Eve, who, at this point, was still sinless/perfect. According to what the scripture says, Adam may have been right there beside her. Why didn’t Satan go to Adam? Did Satan sense vulnerability in Eve’s God-created “emotional” make-up?…..as well as in Adam’s “ego?”

You know, “Women’s Bible studies” (as known today) haven’t always been. I remember when they came into vogue (late 70’s/80’s) in the local church, especially the larger churches (having been a part of one of those larger “bible” churches during that time. I remember well the discussions for/against).

Growing up in a Bible-expositing church in the 60’s/early 70’s, wives/women generally practiced/modeled the truths of Titus 2. (Of course, there were/are always exceptions. As I was thinking through this, interestingly, I realized that almost all of my high school friends’/200 classmates’ moms, most probably unsaved, did also….very few exceptions!!) Anyway, the women felt no need for “extra” bible studies.; too “busy” at home putting Titus 2 into practice? …. taking care of my husband, children, home? I do remember a Ladies Missionary group, that met once a month to help missionaries in a practical way (or even church people, elderly/neighbors/community) i.e. making blankets, preparing some foods, cleaning homes, etc. etc. During the summers, I’d get to
accompany my mother and help also.

So, what happened? While studying women’s issues over some years, it became clear to me, that, when (Christian?) women in the church began listening to, and being educated by, the world’s philosophy (college/women’s lib/etc.), forsaking (deciding for and by themselves) submission to their husbands, not bearing children (or just “a few”), putting the ones they
did have in day-care, leaving their home for the work-place, becoming “equal” with their husbands in providing, “status,” etc….. that they then, sub-consciously(?) began feeling a void, lack of inner satisfaction/fulfillment, possibly even some sort of guilt and began searching for something that might fill the void. And, not being challenged/encouraged/reprimanded(?) by the church pastor/leaders to get back to doing what the scriptures teach, the “emptiness” was rationalized away by….oh!…doing a “spiritual” thing…..“let’s get together/socialize/talk, encourage each other (in our ‘woes), but we’ll justify it by doing something ‘spiritual’…by studying the BIBLE!”

But would Titus 2, Ephesians 5, and Colossians 3 be the first passages to search out? Of course not! The “doctrinal/heavy” issues are of most importance to we “thinking/educated/knowledgeable/wise” women! And we don’t need a man to teach us either. We have the Holy Spirit! Sunday morning teaching is just not enough to “minister” to us (emotional, many-faceted) women. We are a “separate” class; a man can not know all that pertains to us! (facetious-ness off)

And Women’s Bible studies became a structured (“cemented!”) part of the church to “help” our women become “true” women of God. Hence, the question of your blog of  January 6! You see, however, Titus 2 et al. “CAN’T” be taught, because it was “discarded” in the first place to get where they are now! (Teachers in front of large audiences, conferences, in pulpits, “revered” as “women of the Word,” a.k.a. Beth Moore, etc.)

As my husband has often said just as Satan went to the woman in the garden (the “Achilles heel” of the marriage relationship?), so he has captivated emotional, un-discerning, un-submissive women today. And, in the process, God’s word is blasphemed. God is not seen as HOLY! It does bring tears to my eyes/heart.

I appreciated your response on the blog to Tami. VERY sad to say, but her thoughts speak pretty much for the majority of women in the Church today who would call themselves genuine believers! AND…on the blogs. (huge sigh, sometimes it IS despairing)

It’s become the biggest straw man; the most-used EXCUSE for casting blame/responsibility onto others. And for trying to establish/rationalize disobedience to the scriptures. The EXCEPTION has now become the rule. Unfortunately, church leaders have fallen for the exception, instead of standing firm on God’s word. Biblical standards and principles are not considered, and emotionalism has once more become the barometer of any counselling taking place. Would it not be an “insightful” conclusion that “Women’s Bible studies” play/have played a MAJOR part in this scenario? I am UTTERLY ASTOUNDED at times at the audacity, arrogance, and the down-right supreme selfishness of so-called Christian women these days.

I like very much the in-put of “Dave.” 🙂 If I didn’t know otherwise, I’d think it’d be my husband. ha (It’s not) What he shared today, though, my husband has been saying for years. What he says would not have raised an eye-brow 70/100 yrs ago. Hmmmm, so, what’s changed? God’s Word? I think it’d be to a Pastor’s advantage to remind his congregation every now and then, and do what they did in Nehemiah 8:9. He gathered ALL the people together and Ezra read, from the beginning, the book. And reminded the people of history from God’s hand. Would WE weep, when we’d hear the words of the “law” like they did?

 Thanks for being firm on God’s Word, Lori, and for being a blessing.

Love,
Anonymous

Then Nehemiah, who was the governor, and Ezra the priest and scribe, and the Levites who taught the people said to all the people, “This day is holy to the LORD your God; do not mourn or weep.” For all the people were weeping when they heard the words of the law.
Nehemiah 8:9

Women Prophesying in the Church

Women Prophesying in the Church

Whenever I teach that women are commanded to not be preachers/teachers of the Word but to be silent in the churches as the Apostle Paul has taught, invariably I have women tell me that women can prophesy in the church because of 1 Corinthians 11:5. “But every woman that prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.”

Years ago, I listened to Michael Pearl teach 1 Corinthians and he taught that the Apostle Paul wrote this letter to the Corinthian church because they were the most “messed up church in the New Testament” and it is “an extremely practical book.” Paul doesn’t only deal with behavior in the church service but mostly with the daily behavior of all Christians.

Let’s look at the context of this verse to see if people are right about women prophesying in the church. The entire chapter before this verse are instructions for godly behavior and doesn’t mention anything about being in a church service. Here are a few verses for examples.

Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.

Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.

10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.

31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

The next chapter, 1 Corinthians 11, then goes on to speak about a husband being head over his wife and the verse we are studying is in these verses.

But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head.

But every woman that prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.

Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.

16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

Do you see that last verse? The churches of God have no such custom! There’s nothing here about being part of a church service in these verses. It’s simply teaching a wife’s relationship to her husband as he is her head and authority, and he is her head whether or not she is in a church service or not. Her hair is always her covering as a symbol of being in submission to her husband.

The next thing I want you to ponder is the definition of prophesy given in the Bible. A couple chapters later, Paul describes it for us: “But he that prophesies speaks unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort” (1 Corinthians 14:3) It’s not a “new word from the Lord” as many claim today. It’s using what we know from the Word to edify, exhort, and comfort others. Mothers will use all of these when raising their children.

Older women also use all three of these things (prophesy: edify, exhort, comfort) with younger women as I do in order to teach all aspects of godly womanhood. Ken has told me that I have the gift of prophesy but I certainly don’t ever speak out in a church service or hear a “new word” apart from Scriptures. Women may even have to exhort a friend, sister, or relative who is in sin. It has nothing whatsoever about speaking out in a church service and Paul made this clear when he taught that women are to be silent  in the church (1 Corinthians 14:34 and 1 Timothy 2:12).

Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1 Corinthians 14:34

Should Women Teach the Bible in Public?

Should Women Teach the Bible in Public?

As many of you know, I have become convicted about teaching the Bible (theology) to women. I love learning from God’s Word and want to know the truth of it above all. I teach all of the biblical principles of godly womanhood which includes a lot of Bible verses but I don’t claim to be a theologian, pastor, elder, or deacon since God has made it clear in His Word that men are to be the preacher/teachers of the Word. I am seeing too many women preacher/teachers teaching things that are contrary to the Word of God to believe that God wants them teaching the Bible to other women. Plus, they usually teach everything but what the Bible has to say about being a godly woman.

I have decided to research two verses by going again to the commentaries of old to search out my convictions. I love these commentaries because they haven’t been swayed by feminism or political correctness. The verse I am looking at is 1 Timothy 2:11, “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.”

“According to St. Paul, women are not allowed to be public teachers in the church; for teaching is an office of authority. But good women may and ought to teach their children at home the principles of true religion. Also, women must not think themselves excused from learning what is necessary to salvation, though they must not usurp authority. As woman was last in the creation, which is one reason for her subjection, so she was first in the transgression.” From this comment, women are to learn the Word of God from male leaders in the church and they are to learn in silence. Then, they are to go home and teach their children what they have learned.

“Let the woman learn in silence – Listen attentively to instruction, without attempting to teach in public.” This goes against most teaching we hear today. There are many women who teach the Bible in public these days and they have no problems teaching men and women. I just had a thought. The reason these women don’t normally teach the biblical principles of godly womanhood is because they can’t or it would judge them as not obeying it. They are not learning in silence with all subjection and they usually aren’t keepers at home under the submission of their husbands.

“With all subjection—not ‘usurping authority’ (1 Timothy 2:12). She might teach, but not in public (Acts 18:26).” Yet, another commentary of old saying that women should not be teaching out in public. If we look at all the commands to women, there’s nothing that tells women to be known for teaching the Bible in public. Not one command or example.

“The apostle goes on to give some other instructions to women, how they should behave themselves in public worship, in the church of God; he would have them be learners and not teachers, sit and hear, and learn more of Christ, and of the truth of the Gospel, and to maintain good works; and he would have them learn in silence, and not offer to rise and speak, under a pretense of having a word from the Lord, or of being under an impulse of the Spirit of the Lord, as some frantic women have done; and if they should meet with anything, under the ministry of the word, they did not understand, or they had an objection to, they were not to speak in public, but ask their own husbands at home.”

Learners and not teachers. Learn in silence. Not offer to rise and speak. They were not to speak in public. All things that we don’t hear from preachers today. This would offend many rebellious women of today. (Nothing about God’s Word offends me and I love to study it to know exactly what God requires of me.)

“Spiritual receptivity and activity in domestic life were recognized as the appropriate destiny of women, and therefore the female sex was excluded from the public discussion of religious subjects. Though in Christ there is no distinction, yet Christianity does not put an end to the natural distinctions ordained by God; it recognizes them in order to inform them with its higher life.” God’s ordained roles for the sexes is beautiful and create order. Women are to be known for having gentle and quiet spirits. Our role is not inferior to men in any way but it is different and it is good.

“But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence” (1 Timothy 2:12) Let’s look at the old commentaries on this similar verse.

“The whole purpose of these weighty admonitions of the great founder of the Gentile Churches relegates Christian women to their own legitimate sphere of action and influence—the quiet of their own homes… St. Paul shows what is the only proper sphere in which woman should work, and in which she should exercise her influence and power; while man’s work and duties lay in the busy world without, woman’s work was exclusively confined to the quiet stillness of home. The Apostle then proceeds to ground these injunctions respecting the duties in public and private of the two sexes upon the original order of creation, and upon the circumstances which attended the fall.” Keepers at home. Homes take a lot to run smoothly and there is a lot of work to be done in the home especially when there are children. Learn to love being at home, women. Find contentment there. It is a good place to be.

“But I suffer not a woman to teach, They may teach in private, in their own houses and families; they are to be teachers of good things.” I love teaching in the privacy of my own home. I don’t have to fly anywhere, stay in hotels, leave my husband or grandchildren. I’m able to visit by aged mother and father, and take care of my home. I don’t want to leave my home and I love being a teacher of “good things” (Titus 2:3) to younger women as the Lord commands older women.

“The first argument, why it is not lawful for women to teach in the congregation, because by this means they would be placed above men, for they would be their masters: and this is against God’s ordinance.” When women seek to teach other women the Bible, these women they are teaching are learning and listening to women instead of men as God has directed them to learn from. Some of these women preachers/teachers are leading women astray. I see it happening. “God spoke to me so this word is for you…”  Many times, these women eventually have no problem standing in front of and teaching men.

It’s become very obvious to me what this means for women. God made it clear exactly what He wants women to teach other women in Titus 2:3-5. There is absolutely no guesswork in this. If you are an older women, teach these good things to younger women. Allow godly men to teach them the majority of the Bible.

Discerning Error and Truth

Discerning Error and Truth

There are famous women preachers/teachers that other women love to share these preachers’ words excitedly and pronounce them good and inspiring. I look at these women’s words and read them over and over again trying to make sense of them. They may sound good but they aren’t biblical. They make up words that aren’t in the Bible and point women to ways that aren’t of God. They “hear” from God, write it down on paper, and act if these words they supposedly heard from God are for all women. No, they are not!

I sat under and learned from some of these women. They were just alright with me. I’d try to get all excited about them but for some reason I never could and I couldn’t put my finger on it but now I know. I have grown in my faith and know the Bible better so I can easily distinguish between false, made up teachings and solid, Bible teachings. The only way to do this is to chew on the meat of the Word ourselves and learn from godly men who have spent years studying the Word, not “hearing” from God.

I was reading 2 Timothy yesterday. When I get to these smaller books of the Bible, I usually read the entire book in one sitting but it doesn’t take long because they’re short. The Apostle Paul is teaching Timothy how the church should run. In 2 Timothy 1:12, Paul exhorts Timothy: “HOLD FAST the form of sound words, which thou has heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ.” Know the Word of God, women, so when something that doesn’t line up with scripture is being said or written, you will be able to quickly discern if it is truth or not.

In 2 Timothy 2:14, Paul wrote: “Study to show thyself approved unto God a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” My children went to AWANA their entire childhood and this verse is AWANA’s motto. The Bible was hidden deeply into their hearts so they weren’t and aren’t easily led astray by false teachings. They know the truth and I’ve never seen my daughter become excited about one of these female preachers/teachers, thankfully. Ground your children in the Word.

“Shun profane and vain babblings; for they will increase unto more ungodliness” (2 Timothy 2:16). One of these types of female teachers, I wrote about years ago and warned about her. Now, she has left her husband and is in a lesbian relationship. Another one has endorsed gay marriage. It’s never my intent to destroy other women’s ministries but it is my intent to warn all of you about the false teaching that is going on. Don’t listen to someone who claims, “I heard from God and this is what He said…” Shun this type of teaching and go to the Word and learn from the Lord. Leaving the clear teachings of the Word and making up one’s own bible is a very dangerous place to go.

Here is a post that went around that women loved:

Now, this isn’t from a Christian source as I am sure you can tell right away but women love these kind of things. I decided to take this post and change each sentence into truth so a woman in the chat room made a poster for me with my words.

If you see a tweet, poster, or statement written by someone that everyone else is swooning over, make sure it’s truth and not just tickling your ears. If it’s hard to understand and it takes a while to try and figure out, it’s probably not truth. Stick to the Word of God and to those who teach it clearly and unashamedly; those who don’t try to water it down. Learn from those who point clearly to Jesus and His ways. If you have a godly male teacher/ preacher that you love learning the meat of the Word from, put his name in the comment section for others to learn from. If you know other godly female teachers who teach godly womanhood, put their names there, too. It’s good for all of us to know those who love the truth and aren’t afraid to teach it!

God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways,
in these last days has spoken to us in His Son,
whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.
Hebrews 1:1, 2

My Favorite Church Service With the Pearls

My Favorite Church Service With the Pearls

Years ago, right after Debi Pearl’s book Created to Be His Help Meet was published in 2004, we went to a week-long retreat of theirs where Michael was going to preach to us the meat of the Word – the book of Hebrews. I asked if Ken would go with me the first night and he did because he liked what Debi’s book was doing for our marriage and for me. When we got there, we saw Mike right away and went up and greeted him. He’s a big, kind of gruff guy but man, can he preach the Word of God. Ken liked his preaching so much that he went with me the entire week!

Every session, Debi would sit in the front row and smile and nod her head towards Mike. You could see her love towards him and his love towards her the entire week. One day Debi had a class for just women and mostly answered questions about her book. She was soft and gentle and it was fun listening to her. I went up and talked to her for a bit and she was warm and friendly towards everyone. She gave another class on health but I couldn’t make it. I was still recovering from my first brain surgery so it was a miracle I was even able to attend.

I have heard Debi criticized for not teaching the Word in her book but she leaves this up to Mike. In my book, I had Ken share the parts that were teaching the Word since I have become convicted that yes, God gave men the responsibility of doing this and it is a heavy responsibility.

I loved listening to Mike teach about the Lord, how we’re freed from the Law and sin, and how grace now pours down upon us. There were so many things he taught us during that week thirteen years ago that I still remember clearly to this day. No other minister of the Word has had such a great impact upon our lives. He’s a GREAT story teller and he gave an example of God’s grace upon us. He mentioned the old-time cable cars in San Francisco and how they are connected to wires overhead all throughout the city. Where ever you walk, you’re likely to be near or under the cables that bring electricity to these cable cars. God’s grace is like this. It just is pouring down upon us all the day long covering up our sins done in ignorance and blessing us with God’s peace.

On Sunday, they had a church service so all of our children came with us. They were all teenagers by this time and they loved it! The Pearls take the Bible seriously and women were not allowed to speak during the service. Yes, we sang songs praising the Lord. At one point, Michael asked for testimonies of any who came to know the Lord that week. He said if a wife came to know the Lord that the husband stand up and share for her. He then spoke a powerful sermon and prayed over all of us.

And you know what, I wasn’t offended in the least that not one woman spoke during this church service. It didn’t demean women at all, as many want us to believe. It’s God’s created perfect order for us and it was beautiful. The women were dressed modestly and acted modestly. The women learned from Debi Pearl, the older woman, the ways of godly womanhood and all of us learned the meat of the Word from Michael. Just the way God has ordained it to be.

We sang some great old-time hymns and Michael would have a hand raised to the Lord with tears streaming down his face. During his sermons, sometimes he would get so choked up speaking about the His glorious Savior that he would have to stop for a few moments. This big, old gruff guy was moved greatly by the Lord and His love for him. One time Debi was late to one of the sessions so she walked gracefully and cutely up the aisle to the front and he said, “That woman still turns me on!” We all broke out in laughter. So yes, Christians can have a lot of fun and why not; the JOY of the LORD is our strength!

After this week, I bought all of his CDs and wrote all over my Bible learning from this great man of faith. It has been life transforming for Ken and me. Debi helped change our marriage and Mike changed how we see the Lord and who we are in Him. God is using them in powerful ways because they are willing vessels for him. The conference was free because Michael doesn’t want to be beholden to anyone, just as the Apostle Paul was a tentmaker so he wouldn’t be beholden to anyone. They preach the Gospel clearly and with authority and this is why this was my favorite church service ever!

On the last day as we were leaving, Ken found that black Bible in the picture. Everyone had left so they told us to keep it. It’s the Bible I used when listening to all of Mike’s Bible teachings so it’s beat up, marked up, and old. It was old when I got it but I treasure this Bible with God’s Words of wisdom and Michael’s preaching notes in it.

The Apostle Paul’s instructions to Timothy, a young male pastor:

Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season;
reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

2 Timothy 4:2

My Addition to the IF:Gathering

My Addition to the IF:Gathering

On Saturday morning, I spent four or five hours in my office above listening to the IF:Gathering where hundreds of thousands of women were listening in. In between times, I went on a walk with my husband and had breakfast with my parents, mentored a few women, and later babysat my precious grandchildren. I noticed that the majority of the main speakers were mostly younger women preachers who have children at home.

Their stated purpose: “We exist to gather, equip and unleash the next generation of women to live out their purpose.” I guess God’s Word, the Holy Spirit, and godly male preachers and teachers aren’t enough for women today, along with older women who should be willingly teaching the younger women the principles of Titus 2:3-5. They spoke a lot about Jesus, mentoring others about Jesus, being Jesus to others, giving to and helping others, and this is all great! This world needs Jesus and His name was loudly proclaimed. But I do have some questions.

What IF these verses were taught from 1 Timothy 2?

In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

10 But (which becomes women professing godliness) with good works.

11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

God wants women to “learn in silence with all subjection” knowing that God created men to be the leaders and teachers because they were created first and women are more easily deceived.

IF all women truly understand what “shamefacedness” actually meant: not drawing attention to ourselves, women may not want to be up on stage preaching either. God clearly calls MEN to preach and teach the Word of God. They are to be the husband of one wife. This is God’s will. Women should definitely be pointing people to Christ but then to godly male preachers (John MacArthur, Michael Pearl, John Piper, Charles Spurgeon, and many more) who should be teaching these people the meat of the Word since God calls men to preach the Word with authority, not women.

What IF they taught these verses from 1 Corinthians 14 at IF?

33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

 I guess the Apostle Paul wanted to make this point very clear so he wrote it again. Wives are to ask their husbands at home if they have a question concerning the Bible. If they aren’t married, they can ask an elder, deacon, or one of the many Bible commentaries that are written by solid men of the faith. I don’t know about you but I take the Word seriously and I know without a doubt that God’s purposes for women are good and perfect but in the roles that He gave for us to walk in.

What IF these verses being taught from 1 Timothy 5?

Let not a widow be taken into the number under threescore years old, having been the wife of one man.

10 Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints’ feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work.

11 But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;

12 Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.

13 And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.

14 I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.

There aren’t any women in the Bible that preached the Word to large gatherings of women. They served and helped their families and those who were in need. Even single women are commanded to be holy in body and spirit (1 Corinthians 7:34), not preaching to other women.

This conference failed to teach these clearly defined roles given in the above verses for older and younger women. The older women are called to bring glory to the Lord by bringing up children, showing hospitality, bringing people into their homes, and serving those saints in need, especially the younger women. The younger women bring Him glory by getting married, bearing children, and guiding their homes.

What IF the roles were even more narrowly defined for older and younger women?

The aged women likewise, that they be in behavior as becomes holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;

That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,

To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

Can you imagine how amazing it would be if tens of thousands of women were taught to love and obey their husbands and what this looks like on a day-to-day basis? I am sure this would have gone over great (not) but it is something younger women desperately need to be taught! What about being modest in what they wear and how they behave? Forget about teaching women to be keepers at home since this offends way too many women. It sure doesn’t offend their children, however, who would love to have their mothers home full time.

What IF they taught the verses about women tearing or building THEIR HOMES down or up, quarreling and contentious women, or any of these verses from Proverbs given to women, and especially from Proverbs 31?

Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.

11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.

12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.

27 She looks well to the ways of her household, and eats not the bread of idleness.

If our marriages are a mess due to a lack of submission, respect and love towards our husbands, and our children are in rebellion due to our lack of disciplining, training, and caring for them full time, the testimony we show to the world will be greatly weakened and it will more difficult to be salt and light to a lost and dying world. This is why God commands the older women to teach the younger women so we don’t all blaspheme His Word. Shouldn’t this be our goal – to shine Jesus to the lost and bring glory to the Lord? God will use us in powerful ways when we live according to His commands. “If ye love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15). And we can keep His commands because His spirit works mightily within us (Colossians 1:29).

“You are as much serving God in looking after your own children, training them up in God’s fear, minding the house, and making your household a church for God as you would be if you had been called to lead an army to battle for the Lord of Hosts.”
~ Charles Spurgeon

Why Don’t Women’s Bible Studies Teach Godly Submission?

Why Don’t Women’s Bible Studies Teach Godly Submission?

The discussion about women teaching the Word is a hot topic in today’s lukewarm culture but I never want to make rules that are not in the Word. If older women are to only teach other women what is in Titus 2:4, 5, they would absolutely have to teach some of the Bible. I have to use Bible verses to teach what good, modest, chaste, and sober are according the the Word. I teach them what a meek and quiet spirit. I teach them everything that the Word teaches women to be. For great theology, I try to point them to godly male preachers who have studied the Word for years.

Timothy Hammons has written an interesting post on this subject. I haven’t read anything else he has written but I agree with a lot of what he wrote in this article. He wrote about Titus 2:3-5, “We see no mention of older women teaching the younger women the word of God. The older women are to help the younger women with their primary calling: loving their husbands and children, working in the home, being kind and submissive to their own husbands. Far be it from the women’s ministries of our current age to ever teach younger women anything dealing with godly submission.” Agreed. Most female Bible teachers stay far away from submission and the one popular one that I do know has no problem calling herself a preacher and teaching men.

“Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church” (1 Corinthians 14:34, 35).

Mr. Hammons wrote: “The role of women in the church is quite clear to those who will actually look at what Scripture says. There is no call for women to be leading large masses of women in Bible studies, or at conferences, or any other such notion. According to the passage in Titus, and the way God created women, they are to be at home serving their husbands.” He is right. There is not one woman in the entire Bible that did what many popular Christian women are doing today since women are called to be keepers at home. These popular female “preachers” can’t possibly be keepers at home serving their husbands if they are traveling all around teaching women everything but Titus 2:3-5. These verses would convict them if they taught them. God has ordained men to teach the Word since men were created first and as the leaders, and women are easily deceived. (You sure can see this with many of the female preachers and teachers today.)

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. (1 Timothy 2:12-14)

Why don’t Women’s Bible Studies teach godly submission? I have no idea but I suspect it’s because many women no longer believe in it or they are afraid to teach it because of what feminism has done to women today, including Christian women. We should never fear what God has taught us to teach. From my experience, many Christian women are hungry for the truth of God’s Word concerning godly womanhood. Marriage isn’t working the way most women have been brought up. They see the devastation arguing and divorce causes since many of them are products of divorced parents and don’t want it for their children.

The best thing Women’s Bible Studies can do is to begin teaching what God has commanded older women to teach young women. The Church will never be strong if marriages aren’t strong. God’s vehicle to raising godly offspring is through godly, united parents with mothers home full time committed to training, disciplining, and teaching their children God’s Word. This world is in desperate need for godly children who become godly adults to contribute goodness, kindness, hard work, and preach the Gospel with their lives and words. This world needs Jesus. Are you bold enough to speak to the women leadership of your church and ask them to teach godly submission? Have you tried? I have and it wasn’t received well at all so I began a blog and decided to teach them this way instead.

The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
Titus 2:3-5

Reasons Women Should Be Able to Preach

Reasons Women Should Be Able to Preach

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Premier Christianity from the UK wrote a post arguing why women should be able to preach and teach men in the church. “God created us male and female. By not including women equally with men, Christian events are depriving the body of Christ of the fullness God created us with.” Men and women are equal in the eyes of the Lord but they are not the same no matter how much feminism tries to convince us. The author is fighting God’s perfect design for male and females, especially those in the Church.

“However, it is alienating to women and girls without Christian faith if there are no people like them sharing the difference the gospel could make to them. If we want everyone to have access to the truth of Jesus.” Women and girls can hear the Gospel just as well from a man as they can from a woman. The Gospel is the Gospel and does not strengthen or weaken depending upon who teaches it. Mothers should be sharing the Gospel with their children, their friends, and others. There are plenty of opportunities to share the Gospel without having to be a preacher.

“Most of us bleed for a few days a month, many of us have been subjected to harassment and stereotyping, some of us are teachers, careers, CEOs and mothers.” And this is why women should be preachers? Preachers are to teach the Word of God. If women want to talk about their periods or harassment, they can find girlfriends; they don’t need a pulpit.

“The Church is missing out on some incredibly talented, knowledgeable and experienced people when they don’t include women equally to men.” They must not care at all what the Bible’s commands are about this or they would understand. Women are not to teach nor have authority over men because men were created first as the leaders and women are more easily deceived. (1 Timothy 2:12-14). Women can use all of those talents in the home, raising children, homemaking, being a help meet, ministering to others (neighbors, friends, church members, and strangers).

“Research has found women are leaving the Church. More and more women are finding that the Church has little to say to them.” Biblicial truth is truth and is applicable to men and women alike. And it’s men who are leaving the Church since it has become more feminized. There are plenty of churches with female preachers for women to attend, but they are not biblical. I sure would never attend one. If they are disobeying one part of Scripture, how much more are they disobeying?

“Domestic abuse, child sexual exploitation, female genital mutilation, trafficking and pornography are rooted in men’s superiority over women.” No, they are rooted in sin.

“When girls and young women don’t see platforms that include women, they may conclude that public leadership, preaching and teaching are gifts solely given to men.” That’s because they are not gifts solely given to men but commands and the way the Lord has set up His Church. This woman and many like her need to dig into God’s Word and find out Truth for themselves, instead of fighting for what they want that is not being obedient to the Word.

“Women in our churches and across Christian culture may be called by God to lead, teach, preach and write.” No, women are not called to lead, preach, or teach men in the Church. Many have decided to become their own god and write their own bible.

“The few Bible passages on men and women’s roles and responsibilities are far from clear cut and the wider context of Scripture gives us women such as Deborah, Esther, Mary, Priscilla and Junia who evidence that God calls women to lead too.” Deborah is the only women in this list who may have been a leader but she was a judge and I am not sure how much a judge actually leads men. Esther was a queen but certainly didn’t lead anyone. God did use her to free the Israelites and yes, He does use women in powerful ways but not outside of their designated roles. Mary was Jesus’ mother, not a leader. Priscilla lead no one but was Aquila’s wife. Can you tell me how Junia is a leader in this verse?“Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me” (Romans 16:7).  It sounds like he is a man – “kinsmen”.

“The Spirit of God is falling on women across the globe, gifting and calling them, and we must be open to seeing and facilitating that, in our events, churches, mission and social action projects and in each of our lives.” It has nothing whatsoever to do with the Spirit of God. It is the spirit of deception. Stay far away from it, women.

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron.
1 Timothy 4:1, 2