Mike Winger did a four and a half hour long video on women in ministry. I began listening to it after it came out, but I didn’t agree with him after listening a short time. Recently, there’s been a lot of talk on X about women like Allie Beth Stuckey and what she’s doing. Here is Mike’s defense against the criticism of her yesterday. (His words are in quotes. My response will be right after the quotes.)

“Don’t listen to women because they can’t correct men. Because that’s biblical.” (Here he is explaining what others are saying about Allie Beth up on stage telling men to not watch porn and be leaders at the recent TPUSA conference where a large crowd of men and women were present.)

Now, he goes on to use Scripture to mock the people who said this and argue that women can absolutely correct and teach men publicly.

“Remember when Apollos was like ‘shut up Priscilla, I don’t listen to women telling me what they think’?” He failed to mention that Priscilla was with her husband when they took Apollos aside one time to correct him. They did this privately.

“Or when the king told Hilda, the prophetess, that he didn’t have to listen to a woman because then she would be stealing his role as king?” Hilda prophesied to King Josiah ONCE, and it was done privately.

“Or how the woman at the well was ignored by all the townspeople when she told them to come and see Jesus?” The woman at the well shared this with the men in the town, “Come, see a man, which told me all things that ever I did: is not this the Christ?” (John 4:19). That’s it! She wasn’t correcting men or teaching them. She even asked them a question.

“Or how about that time Barak told Deborah that he didn’t have to go to battle for God because he wasn’t feminine enough to listen to something a woman said?” Deborah prophesied to Barak only three times and gave him commands about the battle against Sisera. She said it to Barak alone, not publicly. Barak’s name was listed in the Hebrew Hall of Faith (chapter 11), not Deborah’s.

“I could go on. No I’m not egalitarian. I spent two years defeating egalitarian arguments in a video series that takes over 40 hours to listen to. Women should not be pastors. Nor should they just do all the pastoral roles and merely call it something other than ‘pastor.’ But patriarchy needs to be informed by biblical truth and will end up empowering women to do more than typical, worldly patriarchalists allow.”

God commands women to be keepers at home so they don’t blaspheme the Word of God in Titus 2:5, and He does forbid women from teaching men in 1 Timothy 2:12. He doesn’t call women to spend time traveling, speaking at conferences to men and women, doing podcasts, writing books, rebuking men, and giving interviews especially when they have children at home. He doesn’t even call older women like me to do this. I don’t want to do all of that! I want to be home. I am thankful I have an avenue where I can teach women and still be home and available to my husband, children, and grandchildren. This is where He wants women to be. It’s best to stay within the boundaries that God has called us to stay in.

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1 Timothy 2:12

To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
Titus 2:5

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