He Wants the Children Vaccinated. She Doesn’t.
What do women do who are completely against vaccinating their children but their husbands want their children to be vaccinated? They believe that vaccines contain aborted babies and can cause harm to their children. They are even afraid that their children could die from them since some have. Can they disobey their husbands’ will in this circumstance? Are the husbands asking their wives to sin? (Yes, some believe that vaccinating children is sinful.)
I asked the women in the chat room and some said that yes, they should vaccinate their children since God commands they submit to their husbands. Others said that no, they should not vaccinate since it’s so dangerous. After reading all of the comments, this was my conclusion: “Those who say they wouldn’t submit to their husbands desire to vaccinate their children, how is this possible? Most husbands are much stronger than their wives and can physically take their children to the doctor for vaccinations. I don’t see how this could lead to a good outcome by not submitting. Praying, making a gentle appeal, submitting, and leaving it in God’s hands seems a much better and biblical route to me.”
God commands that wives submit to their husbands in everything. No, they don’t submit to physical abuse or if their husbands ask them to do something evil but in everything else, yes, they submit. Some wives believe that injecting their children with vaccinations is evil but in this case, I believe they must submit. The Bible doesn’t say that vaccinating children is evil. Yes, abortion is evil and if, in fact, it is found out that most vaccinations are indeed filled with aborted fetuses, then they may have a case but as I stated, there is no way that they can prevent their husbands from vaccinating their children without causing much harm to their marriage. Children NEED a father and a mother. Children need their mothers loving their fathers. They don’t need conflict and chaos in their homes. They need a home filled with peace and love. This is much more likely to happen when the wife is obeying the Lord and her husband.
When a wife is living in loving submission to her husband on a continual basis, her husband will be much more willing to listen to her appeals. If she has researched vaccinations and feels strongly against them, she can share these with him after praying. Then she must give it to the Lord and live by faith instead of by fear. If he insists the children be vaccinated, she can study ways to lessen the chances of side effects. Jacqueline at Deep Roots at Home has a great article about this called Proven Vaccine Detox if You See Your Child or Baby Regress. I have read articles written by women who have been able to heal their children from vaccine damage through diet and other measures.
There are risks to almost everything in life. Every single day you get in your car, there is a risk of getting in a fatal car accident. Our times are in His hands. The best way to live is to obey the Lord in everything. This brings Him glory. Then trust Him with the outcome no matter what happens. He will give you the grace and the strength to endure whatever happens in this short life. Your husband is responsible for how he leads your family. Pray daily for him and for the decisions he makes then trust the Lord to guide him.
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
28 thoughts on “He Wants the Children Vaccinated. She Doesn’t.”
I agree Lori. I’m sure the husband only wants what’s best, and doesn’t do it out of even remotely evil intentions. Current vaccines are not made out of any aborted fetal material, instead cell lines are bred in laboratories in petri dishes, not collected from any human, (not embryonic stem cells, regular somatic (body) cells) that have been for decades. Any cells from those are trillions of generations removed from the original cells so no vaccines today are made from aborted babies.
Vaccines have save countless lives from preventable diseases, and I think this is a matter in which the husband also has say. You are right that it is only in extreme circumstances should a wife disobey her husband’s leadership.
Thanks for advocating for the hard kind of submission–ie, when you’re giving up your own will to do what your husband wants. When my husband wants something different than I, I find myself rationalizing that it’s really okay because of X–and this is rebellion, not to mention hypocrisy since I give lip service to the idea of submission!
I would add that when your husband has made a decision, it is not HIS decision–it is the FAMILY decision. This means that when outsiders say, “Oh, you’re really going to do X,” you don’t “put the blame” on your husband, but back him up. And you don’t drag your heels on it, but cheerfully carry out his wishes.
This is why it’s a difficult issue for some couples who disagree with each other. Some agree with what you have clearly stated and others do not. I know many godly people who believe what you wrote and others who are vehemently opposed to vaccinations. It’s not an easy thing when couples disagree.
Exactly, Heidi. I know a wife who didn’t want to vaccinate her children but her husband insisted so she does. She feeds her children very healthy and does what she can to keep them as healthy as possible but she knows that disobeying her husband on this issue won’t work and she doesn’t want to cause dissension in her marriage since he is head over her. He’s the one responsible for leading his family as you stated.
Lady of Reason, look up the new Walvax 2 from China. They hand picked a baby to murder and develop it from. This is the future of vaccines, and it’s not pretty.
So do vaccines actually work as they claim to, the issue is that a bunch of other bad ingredients which can cause harm are added to vaccines which is why you are against it? I’ve read that vaccines don’t even work they are nothing but an ongoing scam designed to profit the pharmaceutical industry. I am not sure what the truth is regarding all vaccines…
You can look up the ingredients for any vaccine. Let’s use MMR for example, a listed ingredient is human lung diploid fibroblasts. If you look up what that is, it is stated from numerous sources that they are cells from an aborted fetus. Now I don’t care if its from newly aborted babies or multiplied from aborted babies from decades ago, however it works I will have nothing to do with it. Thankfully my husband agrees. This would be the hardest thing to submit to, at least for me. Obviously you shouldn’t argue over it but I certainly would try to lovingly change his mind and Pray,pray,pray.
The pride of believing you know more than your husband, therefore he should submit to your knowledge, rather than reasoning together and then submitting… It doesn’t sit well with me.
This was actually an issue in our marriage. My husband wanted to vaccinate, and I wanted nothing to do with it. He offered to take our daughter to the Dr alone so that I would not have to be part of it. That was gracious of him, but obviously that didn’t do much to soothe the devastation I felt. I submitted to his decision, but prayed and cried a lot. Eventually, he changed his mind on having her get them! Thankfully our subsequent children have never received any. If you are in this situation, keep praying!
“When a wife is living in loving submission to her husband on a continual basis, her husband will be much more willing to listen to her appeals.”
Lori, that is the crux of the matter. We could sit and swap anecdotal evidence all day (I come from an African country where vaccines save thousands of children but there still many without access to them who die young from measles, polio, tetanus, diphtheria, tuberculosis, whooping cough and meningitis although I have opted out of some vaccines with my husband’s permission) but it will not negate the overarching biblical framework within which wives are to interact with their husbands in all areas. God’s word stands and a wife who normally joyfully obeys and serves her husband is miles ahead of the curve when it comes to getting her concerns heard. Also it’s not a manipulative tool because the godly wife understands that her husband may say no and God anticipated that so it’s okay.
This is one thing my husband and I have never disagreed on and for that, I am grateful, as here in New Zealand we currently have a measles outbreak (they’re calling it an epidemic) and many people are panicking, rushing to get their kids vaccinated early. Our kids are not vaccinated, and won’t be getting vaccinated. Although I was vaccinated as a kid, he wasn’t, and he’s just as adamant as I am that vaccination is not the best choice for our kids. If he wanted to get them done, I’m really not sure what I would do. Submitting to him on this issue would be really, really hard, especially because he leaves most of the decisions for the kids up to me. Thankfully, I don’t have to do it!
Many vaccines and experimental specimens are developed from human fetal tissue all over the world, not just China.
My friend was in this situation.
Her husband is in the medical field and wanted the children vaccinated. My friend gathered all the material and evidence against it and left it with him to decide. He decided to get all the vaccines done. Over the course of a few years, she won him over without a word by using natural remedies and healthy food for various things and getting results. Amazing what God can do through a loving and submissive wife.
I agree. Whatever “research” you do, you need to have a soft heart that can be taught by your husband. My husband trusts doctors, and I’m going to trust him. Even the idea of crying until he gave in to you seems wrong. Do you really believe you are smarter than many men who have studied, done research, and tested out vaccines for years? Do you really believe you are smarter than your husband? You CHOSE to marry him because you felt he was a wise and Godly leader.
Hey I’m a kiwi too but now living in Sydney, Australia. It’s great to find like-minded Christians from Home:))
Yes, but now they are admitting to it and providing us with details much more openly. Which is not a good sign at all.
Just to clarify, I did not attempt to manipulate my husband with my emotions. Most of my tears were in private. He was aware of my opinion, because we are married and discuss things.
I’m definitely not smarter than my husband, but some women are. That really has nothing to do with submission though. God has placed husbands in authority regardless of smarts.
If I love the color blue and my husband hates it, does God demand that I hate the color blue also? No. Submission in that case might look like me never wearing the color blue, or not painting our bedroom blue, but it’s fine for me to still personally love the color blue.
A man who disregards the God given wisdom and insight his wife has is a fool.
I’m a husband who isn’t a Nabal and appreciates the wisdom he gave my Abagail.
Not all women are wise. There are many foolish women who want to rule over their husbands.
Vaccines definitely work very well at preventing disease. No question. If one is concerned about the ethics of vaccines or ingredients that might cause a reaction in some children, that is a separate issue, but they definitely work.
Apparently, you only allow comments that agree with you, and delete or not approve any that disagree, or actually give you the facts about vaccines. Which shows where you’re at. Truth isn’t allowed, your opinion is the only truth.
Krystyna, I would suggest questioning the status quo. Strongly suggest.
That you never hear about issues, does not mean there are none.
The world at large completely blocks the truths affecting women who murder their fetus’, ranging from depression leading into suicide, infertility stemming from the procedure, etc. It is a horror Satan hides from society, and the Church sadly is only mildly in the fight.
In the same vein (no pun intended), the effectiveness of vaccines is questionable at best and their downsides are completely silenced. There are mandated lists of ingredients for food (chemical compounds entering your body through the protection of the digestive tract) but not for vaccines (chemical compounds entering your body circumventing the protection of the immune system). Why? Lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies are conducted in a SEPARATE court system as of the 1970s. Why the decreased transparency? When you visit an M.D., their default assumption is that your baby will be vaccinated. Ever both to question it? Ask your doc to NOT vaccinate the child. Note the reaction, and the doc’s desire to control. If vaccination was truly the right decision for every baby everywhere, then the process of manufacture would be exposed to the light and the effectiveness would stand on its own merits. It never is, and it never does.
Vaccines are a relatively new man-made invention, when considering the timeline of Life. We went from 2 humans (Adam and Eve) to 6b without them.
That’s the tree. Now for the forest:
BEWARE OF ‘FREE’. Welfare is used by government to control your life. Public schooling is used by government to control your thought. Healthcare is used by government to control your body. Vaccinations are an integral part of ‘health’-care. I personally do not subscribe.
I am not publishing all of the posts that agree or disagree with vaccinations, Ursula, because that is not really the point of the post. I have published a few but I don’t want others to be distracted from what I am trying to teach. I disagree with vaccinations but others have good arguments for vaccinations.
It is a fact that most vaccinations are made from aborted fetal cell tissue lines. This is not debatable . It is an abomination. Thankfully my husband and I agree on this. Woe to those who use this sorcery upon their children. Would a godly mother hesitate to protect her children from any other murderous act upon her child even from a husband? Revelation 18:23 clearly speaks of this sorcery (pHARMakia is the Greek word for sorcery in this text)… this IS the deception spoken of.
You are in my prayers.
Ephesians 5:15-33 was written to encourage unity in marriage. With that in mind, Paul’s instruction to wives can’t be separated from his teaching to men and his overarching advice to both sexes:“Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. … Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her” (Ephesians 5:22 and 25, ESV).
“[Submit] to one another out of reverence for Christ” (Ephesians 5:21, ESV).
In all things, a woman is responsible first to God. If she cares about her marriage, her family, her community, and her relationship with the Lord, she doesn’t submit mindlessly to every decision her husband makes. Submission and obedience aren’t necessarily the same thing. Ephesians 5:23 makes it clear that a man does have responsibility for leadership in his home. But, it’s only as a leader that his wife submits to him — not as a tyrant or her superior. My husband and I don’t agree about vaccinations. My views are based on extensive research, and doing my due diligence. My husband believes vaccines are good because he trusts the doctors, but he’s not willing to research. The bible teaches us to be in the world, but not of the world, it also teaches us to be wise, and to test the spirits to see if they are of God. I pray to God every day my husband will have a change of heart. He relies on man, not God to make decisions. He doesn’t pray, he barely reads his bible or goes to church, and he spends most of his time with unbelievers. He’s on rocky ground when it comes to his faith. If you would have me believe that I should submit to someone who doesn’t submit to God daily and lead our family according to Gods word, I respectfully disagree.
John 831-32 ESV
31So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, 32and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” 33
Yes, Paul’s instructions to wives and husbands can be separated from each other since a husband and wife are separate entities and the instructions for wives is to wives and the instructions to husbands is to husbands. Our obedience to God does NOT depend on anyone else’s obedience. In fact, 1 Peter 3:1,2 are God’s instructions to wives who are married to disobedient husbands and He still commands that wives live in subjection to their husbands. You will win your husband not by fighting him and being upset with him but by living in subjection to him with a meek and quiet spirit. The more you fight him, the worse your marriage will become. Give it to the Lord! Let Him work on your husband where he needs work. He does a LOT better job than you do.