What If Roe v. Wade is Overturned?

What If Roe v. Wade is Overturned?

Abortion is a hot topic these days. The movie “Unplanned” has helped it along. But Hollywood elites are crying, “Foul!” I just read one woman share how horrible her abortion was when she was four and a half months along and she wouldn’t want anyone to go through what she went through in bad conditions. Instead of grieving over the murder of her child and the toll this took on her body, mind, and emotions, she wants to promote abortion but just make sure they are done in “healthy” environments!

Let’s say Roe v. Wade is overturned someday (which I would rejoice over). What should happen to women who seek out illegal abortions? Up until 1973, babies were protected in the womb by law. Therefore, for most of the history of the United States, babies were valued and considered worthy of life. In 49 of the states, abortion was considered a felony; in New Jersey, abortion was a high misdemeanor.

Those who performed abortion were punished and so were the women who had abortions. What if abortions become illegal? What should be the punishment for those who seek abortions and those who perform them? Should there even be a punishment? I believe there needs to be some type of punishment for women seeking abortions or what would there be to deter others from having them? I’m not sure it should be jail time but there needs to be something that clearly shows that abortion is murder and to put fear into women who want to abort. The abortionists should go to jail for many, many years.

There needs to be consequences for disobeying the law. We go over the speed limit, we get a ticket if the policeman sees us. We steal, we must pay back or even be put into jail. All crimes are punished and getting an abortion, if it is illegal, is no different. Yes, the punishment should be weighted with the crime. If a woman aborts her eighth month baby, the punishment should be much greater. A teenager whose parents are forcing her to have an abortion, the parents should suffer the consequences.

If we believe abortion is murder (which it is), there needs to be clear consequences for not only performing the murder but for those allowing it to happen to them. After all, “our nation has been polluted and defiled by child sacrifice and the shedding of innocent blood ever since [Roe v. Wade]” (Rusty Thomas). God calls the murder of one’s child an abomination (Deuteronomy 18:10-12). God doesn’t take it lightly. Why should we?

Illicit sex is where this whole problem begins. We live in a highly sexualized culture. Fornication is common among many. Yes, there’s birth control but no birth control is 100 percent effective so abortion rates will continue to be over a million a year, most likely. Sex education in public schools are a travesty. Children need to be taught abstinence and the beauty of sex in marriage. It’s the ONLY safe place where sex should take place and they need to be taught the value of having children. This won’t happen until children themselves feel valued which many do not. We live in an anti-child culture.

How are we to deal with all of this today? We are to be salt and light, women. The Apostle Paul wrote his epistles in a wicked culture. He taught young women to marry, bear children (yes, have children!), and guide the home. Love their husbands and children, be discreet, chaste, good, sober, obedient to their husbands and keepers at home. These were completely contrary to the culture in which he wrote them, as they are even today. Keep walking in truth and obeying God. It’s the best place to be and in doing this, you WILL be salt and light!

Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 5:16

42 thoughts on “What If Roe v. Wade is Overturned?

  1. I’m absolutely disgusted by the attitudes I’ve been hearing all over social media totally disregarding that there even is a human life involved! To them, it’s all about what’s convenient, even if it is murder….

  2. It’s obvious, but people ignore the reality that abortion is rooted in fornication. When people scoff at God’s commandments and do what they want to do with “their” bodies, evil fruit is always the end result. Sex outside of marriage is both ungodly and unsafe, especially for women. A genuine fear of God should deter women from committing fornication and waiting until marriage to have sex. Women should only make themselves available for marriage; if a man is demanding or insisting on sex prior to this, he is NOT a Christian and the woman should distance herself from him.

    1. Lady Virtue – wonderfully put ! I would add only a few things.

      I would say that abortion is rooted in fornication and the evil culture of birth control.

      I agree that a fear of God and respect for her future husband and children should deter a woman from fornication. And yes a woman should distance herself from a man seeking sex before marriage. But also a Godly man should distance himself from a woman who would allow it as unworthy of being a wife or mother to his children.

      1. Sadly, there are even some married women getting abortions, at least here in New Zealand. Some people seem to see it as a form of contraception 🙁

        The only time I can see abortion being justified is when the pregnancy is a result of rape and the mother’s mental (or physical) health is threatened, or when the pregnancy is a result of incest, especially rape of a child. And of course when the mother’s life is endangered if the pregnancy continues. But even then, very careful medical care is sometimes an option.

        1. In the case of rape, two wrongs never equal a right. I can’t see it for a mother’s “mental” health either. Women could use this excuse all the time for an abortion.

          1. Lori – Here in New Zealand they *do* use it as an excuse for abortion – it’s the most common grounds. We don’t have abortion-on-demand here (yet, but likely will soon) so “mental health” is the default option.

  3. Have you ever noticed how frequently the liberal left likes to talk about “science” and “facts”. They post memes with snarky comments such as “I like science because you don’t have to believe in it for it to be true” as a slam to those of us who are believers. Well, look at the science that proves that a pregnancy is a human being. Look at the ultrasound images which are so very clear now. Look at the number of babies that have survived in spite of being born very prematurely, such as my friend’s miracle baby born at 25 weeks and is now a thriving young teen. Look at the fact that surgeons can now operate on a baby while the baby is still in the womb. How is it we have all of these scientific facts right in front of our faces…and yet it doesn’t matter?? “Science” is only important to the liberal left when it is convenient. They quickly dismiss scientific facts and begin talking about “rights” whenever they appear to stand in the way of what they want.

      1. The Transformed Wife — what I think I hear you saying is you support the death penalty for those who seek abortion. I know a lot of people on FB responding to this post do. You say you aren’t sure if “jail” is right, but something needs to put fear into women as a deterrent. If not jail then what? I think most of your readers support the death penalty.

        1. No, I have never stated that I would support the death penalty for those who have abortions. Some may, but I don’t. I do believe that it would be the right punishment for abortionists, however. They know full well what they are doing as they pull out from a woman’s body the body parts of the baby they are murdering.

          There are all types of reasons women get abortions. Some are pressured into it, others are frightened, and many other consider the baby an inconvenience. It’s the whole mentality that needs to be changed. All life is precious and needs to be protected! We have a culture of death right now that is getting worse. I pray this changes but my hope remains steadfast upon the Lord.

  4. Lori, I will be rejoicing with you if our current abortion laws are overturned!! Until then, I will be praying for the protection of preborn babies and being salt and light in this dark culture. Thank you for speaking out so unashamedly. If God be for us, who can be against us? In other words, it doesn’t really matter what man tries to legislate because we are on the winning side! All souls belong to Him… especially all of those who have been denied the right to live out God’s purposes and plans on this side of eternity. Have mercy on us, O Lord.😞

  5. Science is making it harder and harder to deny that this *uterine tissue* is a baby. The left simply does not want to admit the obvious. They want the right to kill their children- for any reason.

    I never imagined it would be overturned in my lifetime, but the way the left is screaming & trying to scare women to death, it means there’s actually hope!

  6. Many abortions are performed & sadly often encouraged by doctors because the developing baby has some sort of disability. It makes me sad that Churches turn away families who have children with disabilities especially those with obvious deformities and on breathing machines. Please remember that these souls who could have been easily killed have parents that chose life for them. Unless, of course, the belief is such that parents are punished with a child that has a disability for past sins. I don’t think I read that on this blog, but it’s unfortunately quite a common Christian thought.

    1. I can’t believe anyone would teach that…that a soul, disabled or not, is not a blessing but a punishment?! In the parish church I grew up in, there were many, many huge families. In many of the huge families somewhere around #10 or #12 there would be a disabled or Down Syndrome baby. As a popular teenage babysitter who early on fell in love with big families and desired my own (we were a small family of only four children), I quickly noticed the immense LOVE in families with a disabled child. The patience and love that all shared was impressive.

      One Christmas the parish priest chose a young Down Syndrome girl to carry Baby Jesus up the aisle for him to place in the manger; it’s a tradition to put the Baby Jesus statue in the manger before
      Midnight Mass. Anyway, his sermon was on why he picked her. He told all the families with these disabled children, “you are blessed!” These children can’t will to offend God without the use of reason, these baptized souls will go to Heaven when they die, unable to choose to sin and perhaps being unrepentant against God. And he brought up the virtue their very existence stimulates a need for in the family. I was only 13 or 14, but as you can see, I still remember it clearly 20 years later. All life is beautiful! God makes no mistakes.

    2. No, KSM, parents who have children with disabilities aren’t being punished for past sins or we all would have disabled children! We live in a fallen world and disabled children are part of it. I agree SM. God uses disabled children in families for good. They make people more compassionate, loving, and willing to serve others. All things work together for good to those who love God and are called according to His purposes.

      1. I’ve been to a few, and I live in a major metropolitan, largely liberal area of the US. Not exactly turned away, but it’s easy to see the glares and whispers at the family. I’ve seen people move away from them once they’ve chosen a seat in Church. I’ve witnessed Pastors/Priests scold a mother for not keeping a child quiet (mind you, this child had an obvious brain injury/malformation and mostly likely speech/noises were involuntary). That’s not exactly welcoming and all very sad. It makes me want to remind parishioners that they didn’t choose abortion for their sick baby and trusted God’s plan for their lives.

        I now go to a Church that is welcoming of families with all kinds of children and speaks kindly of the disabled and the mentally ill and does not exclude them from worship.

      2. The church I attend is very lukewarm in its support for disabled people, whether children or adults (remember that special needs children grow up to be special needs adults). My disabled adult daughter has found a place for herself here, and I doubt any church around would be any better, so since she doesn’t handle change well we’re staying put.

        1. We need better than lukewarm, Nick. I’m glad your daughter has found a place for herself. I’m sorry this has been your experience. I have always wondered why Church-goers have some sort of bias against those with disabilities. I have even heard “Better them than us.”

          My father has very mild Cerebral Palsy-his mother smoked and during her pregnancy. He walks with a mild limp, has hardly noticeable hand tremors, and speaks a bit slowly. He supported our family and has his Master’s degree. My mom was a SAHM.

          Even as a young girl, some of my earliest memories of going to church with my family, holding my Daddy’s hand, was contempt on part of the congregation. Others couldn’t possibly understand how my mom loved and married a man with a (very mild) disability. I heard whispers of “responsibility”, as if my father couldn’t possibly be a good provider and parent. We encountered strangers at the grocery store, at the car wash, and at the park who were much kinder to my dad and treated him like a human being.

          1. I’m absolutely disgusted that churches do this. I don’t personally know of any (probably because I’ve been in the same church all my life and have never gone to another one) but if that is their attitude, it goes against the entire spirit of Christianity. Do these people not actually believe in Jesus? Jesus did not turn away disabled people! Mostly, He healed them. And He loved them.

            I have a disability myself, and there are a number of extremely disabled people (of various disabilities) throughout our church all over the country, and they are loved and cherished by all. Obviously there are a few individuals who are less than welcoming, because humans are sinners, but the church as a whole is very welcoming and accommodating to all disabilities. I don’t understand how Christians and churches can be any other way. What is their justification for it?

      3. It’s usually through a strong sense of social disapproval, rather than an outright ban on disabled persons in service. We used to go to one church with our son (who is mentally disabled and sometimes rather loud), and the pastor asked us to keep him out of service because the people would be distracted by him. So I sat with him in the foyer, and that was the last time we ever went there. This was a church that we otherwise greatly respected. I believe it comes from the child-free atmosphere in most modern churches – we’re used to silent churches, with children elsewhere, so any sort of noise from disabled people is viewed with disapproval.

  7. Hopefully the murderous Roe is overturned, but the root of the problem happened eight and four years prior to Roe in 1973. In 1965, SCOTUS legalized contraception with Griswold vs.Commecticut, and in 1969, they legalized porn in ‘Stanley vs. Georgia’. They followed this up with 2003’s horrendous ‘Lawrence vs. Texas’ legalizing homosexuality, and 2015’s horrific ‘Obergefell vs. Hodges’ legalizing homosexual marriage.

    All are unbiblical and unconstitutional. One can easily show how all are crimes against nature with both the Bible and/or Science.

    Also, we used to severely stigmatize masturbation, and carefully train children to avoid it, to preserve sex for marriage alone. That teaching has virtually vanished. It needs to return, ASAP.

    A society that does not ensure zero sex of any kind before marriage, and fidelity within it, is a society that is in serious trouble.

    We will always hear from those who will lie and say these things were commonplace in America before. Well, 100 years ago, the rates were VASTLY lower than today. Sex outside of marriage is the root of virtually all of our societal problems today, combined with the related drug use, which many sexual sinners turn to to relive the misery their sin causes them.

    1. You are right that only between husband and wife, in marriage and open to God’s blessing of life is sexual activity morally acceptable, outside of sin and a positive as opposed to negative force.

      1. Susanne,

        You keep saying that having sex without the possibility of it creating life is sinful. Is it sinful when a husband has sex with his pregnant wife? There is no way that another life can be created while she is pregnant. What about a husband having sex with is postmenopausal wife? There is no way she is going to get pregnant. Is that sin also? What about a wife who has had a hysterectomy? There is no possibility of life being created in that union. Is that sinful?

        I have tried to ignore these assertions on your part but you just keep on saying them over and over and you are potentially misleading many other women out there with your own personal misguided beliefs that are not backed by Biblical teaching. Please show us in the Bible where this is taught.

          1. I didn’t read Susanne’s comment that way at all. I took it to mean that only a husband and wife should engage in sexual relations without interfering with a blessing of life being welcomed by their union. Sex during pregnancy, a hysterectomy, and menopause will not result in a pregnancy, obviously, but the married couple engaging in such relations are not actively preventing a created life in those circumstances or life stages.

          2. Forever Grateful,

            Where does the Bible teach that a husband and wife should only “engage in sexual relations without interfering with a blessing of life being welcomed by their union”?

          3. Thank you Trey!!
            You and I disagree on a great many things, but on this issue, I appreciate your insight.
            Nowhere in the Bible does it say it is sinful to have sex without the possibility of creating life. Women are only fertile for a few days every month. Is having sex on one of the non-fertile days sinful?
            How about sexual activities that don’t include intercourse? Are they sinful?

            This is why so many young women raised in Christian homes believe sex is “dirty” and “sinful”, I think. Instead of being raised to believe that God created our bodies to be used for pleasure with our spouse, they’re raised to think it’s shameful, outside of very narrow parameters.

        1. I am a prisoner of the Lord; my body has been bought with the price of innocent blood. I am no longer my own. I no longer get to make my own decisions. I no longer get to have my way. I am alive unto Christ. Scripture testifies that God knew us before we were even concieved (Jeremiah 1:5). How many people does God know that were rejected life through contraceptive methods? Both my parents were born whilst their moms were not actively trying to have a baby, my parents together now have 4 kids. If that contraception wouldve worked, my mom, dad, me and all my siblings wouldn’t have ever existed in this life. Only God knows truly how many people are snubbed of life when contraception is used on just one baby. The same Scripture testifies that God is the One who forms the life in the womb (Jeremiah 1:5).

          Then why would older Christians be encouraging me to stop the work of the Lord? And that I’m irresponsible if I refrain from blocking His blessings because finances are bad? Is not God worthy of my trust? Is not God responsible with His children? Is the Lord really Almighty, or only in some things? It grieves my heart that these disagreements bring out the strife between the brethren. Wouldn’t this just be common sense? God does tell us to have the faith of a child (Matthew 18:3). If it is God who calls babies blessings (Psalm 128:1-6), and God who foreknows them (Jeremiah 1:5), and God who performs the work of their creation (Psalm 100:3), then how could I actively prevent His blessings in my life, that are not for me in the first place, but are for Him (Psalm 127: 3), and not call that sin? That’s like not trying to win crowns because you don’t personally want them, totally ignoring that the crowns are to be laid at the feet of Jesus (Revelation 4:10+11) !

          “Yes, and you can win crowns if you want to, and can afford them, but crowns just aren’t for me.” They are For HIM, NOT for us! God has done SO much for us, and none of it was deserved, so why when it’s our turn to give back, do we search for loopholes, and excuses, to not give God His rewards that He most certainly deserves(Psalm 127:3)? Does God only rule you in some areas, but in others you are more wise and insist on taking control? Cause that’s what it sounds like. I want to give the Lord ALL the rewards He deserves, and ALL the rewards He wants; and He says that children are one His rewards (Psalm 127:3). The Lord is worthy of way more rewards than my womb could ever provide, nonetheless, I desire to give Him ALL. This IS a matter of faith, whether you like it or not, and the Bible says “. . . . For whatsoever is not of faith is sin.” Romans 14:23.

          1. Mara – Your verses (and others) are used by a small minority of Christians who don’t believe in birth control. But those verses certainly don’t show that sex is sinful outside that tiny window of time when a baby can actually be conceived – which is what Susanne is suggesting in her comments.
            By saying that all sex that is not open to the possibility of life is sinful, is blatantly incorrect and not scriptural. It is harmful to sexual relationships.

          2. Being unable to have kids and purposely refusing your fertility is not the same thing. Women who can’t have babies are not sinning when they have sex with their husbands, nor did I ever suggest this, (Sarah, Hannah, and Rachel for example). Nor did I ever say that sex during the time that the wife isn’t ovulating is sin. Of course it’s not, there’s no way they would’ve been able to calculate that back in the day, and certainly not all those people who were intimate before science was able to detect fertility, was sinning! Neither are the beginning stages of sex (all that comes before) are sinful, either. But women whose bodies are fruitful, and yet refuse children that God foreknows, and FORMS Himself, are the ones that I was talking about! (And probably Suzanne, but Im not sure).

            Couple nowadays want THEIR rewards from sex (which is pleasure), but wish to limit GOD’S rewards from sex (which are babies), when it was created to utlilize both. And then go on to say that teaching women to allow GOD to PLAN your family size is MISLEADING them!? Is the hand of the Lord waxed short?

            The rewards of God are determined by how many babies WE want, rather than by how many babies GOD wants. Human nature is so quick to think of itself before it thinks of God, we live to ever please ourselves. But this STOPS when we get saved, Hallelujah!

            God had fore ordained Jeremiah to be His prophet before he was even born! How many babies does God already have a mighty plan for, that are never allowed to be born? How many missionaries, submissive wives, preachers, does He constantly get refused access to make?

            Any way that we can give back to the Lord, as Christians, we should! Amen! I want my life to be a sweet savour unto the Lord.

            To close this I want to say that you are still my sister in the Lord (and Trey is still my brother), even when we strongly disagree, and I love you. This should not cause us to be rude to one another. I do not wish to condemn you, I wish to bless you with the information that I have found from older women in the Lord, from prayer, and from scripture reading. I desire nothing more than to please the Lord with my life, and I just want the same for my brethren. I apologize if I’ve come on too strong in the past. I just love babies and have come to love them even more knowing how much God is blessed by them. I have always loved large families, but the world told me this was irresponsible, amd dangerous, and like you, I was all for birth control for quite a while. I even asked my mom if I could be on birth control when I was twelve so I could grow my hair out, lol. But I have been blessed to learn the amazing power that God has that is only found through having faith in Him in everything. If I’m poor, and the Lord opens up my womb, then He whose thoughts are higher than my thoughts, has a plan, and I can rest assured that He knows what He’s doing. For I lay my whole body down as a sacrifice unto the Lord.

          3. I can tell you that at our older age, our children and now our grandchildren are by far our greatest blessings in this life. Nothing else even comes close.

  8. Abortion is a national defense issue. No nation that countenances the murder of millions of unborn babies can expect or call upon a just God for aid and protection from its enemies.

    1. Amen to that. I don’t know whether to guffaw or vomit whenever I hear American Christians refer to America as a “Christian” nation that will be blessed by God. Are these people living in some other nation called “America” that I’m unacquainted with?

  9. Completely agree with you Lori!, although I think that a life sentence should be introduced for the disgusting rapists out there.

  10. I have a daughter with an intellectual disability. She is a gorgeous, loving women. And very vulnerable. We had to make a decision to keep her safe. It wasn’t easy. She is on bc. And not because she is immodest, immoral or anything else. It is to protect her from those who think it’s ok to hurt her. I would rather have the sin of using bc than a pregnancy in which she risks passing on her genetic disorder (50%). There is no way she is able to raise a baby. I find abortion abhorrent. I know that people won’t agree , but they don’t live our life.

    1. You sound like a wise woman Evie!
      It is a sad indictment on our society that men can’t be trusted to keep the most vulnerable amongst us safe, but instead some of them would take advantage of that.

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